WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



The Kronic 10:28 Mon Nov 28
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Anyone who hates the cunting Septics is alright in my book. RIP Fido! Shame Cuba will now fall back into Yank hands.
Thankfully I went there before it did.

violator 10:20 Mon Nov 28
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
http://www.therealcuba.com/

Willtell 9:44 Mon Nov 28
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BRANDED 5:59 Sun Nov 27
That's true about Castro as he got the basics right but why does it always have to be by force to make communism work?

Most Cubans can't afford anything as the country was wasted by Castro. His brother has been a bit more enlightened but they are still a backward country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/26/cuba-changing-market-economy-fidel-castros-death-likely-accelerate/

"I recently spent several weeks in Cuba. The last thing I expected to encounter was an entrepreneurial revolution in one of the world’s last remaining communist strongholds, yet that is precisely what I found."

mashed in maryland 9:39 Mon Nov 28
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Not as hard as the millions celebrating his death.

BRANDED 10:28 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Beats capitalism all his life. He's fucking laughing where ever he is.

Far Cough 9:54 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Fights Capitalism all his life, dies on Black Friday

sidneyshitcunt 6:00 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
30 years ago "no blacks, no Irish" and 99% of people went along with it. Not myself as a mixed race chap.

These days you can be arrested for calling a man who wants to call himself a woman "he" and I should know as I have been.

The woman as I *must* call her without either saying 'her' or him/her reported me to the Police who promptly interviewed me. I told them I stood by what I said and that "he is a man, isn't he" to which they said you can't say that.


Sure.. NOTHING has changed in Britain!

BRANDED 5:59 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Pee Wee.
Of course there's tons of shit things. But you have to take it in the whole. When I travel many locals I meet can't travel far because they are so in debt and earn very little.
Cubans have health, education and are currently self sufficient. They make great music are brilliant dancers and have very very little crime. Cubans have not been bitches to organised crime or the banks ( same thing) for 56 years.

HairyHammer 5:38 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
I remember 2003 the Iraq invasion 1 million on the streets trying to stop the war no one in power even took a glance, and remember Bush saying " Your'e either with us or against us", regarding that very same Invasion, I want to ask you lot if that is Democracy?.

95% of the media in America did not even question the war in 2003 can you imagine that, even though they knew 100% that Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 is that democracy?.

You have to read many books learn about the realities of the world and ask yourself if democracy is an actual thing.
Yes we have freedom of speech up to a point, and material things but if the controllers of the world order say jump many have no choice but to do so with a degree of trepidation.

Pee Wee 5:28 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Absolutely, and when I was there I was more than a little jealous of them at first.

But the general consensus from the locals I spoke to was that they wanted to be able to choose their own destiny. To not be allowed to leave their country makes them prisoners.

Only a few are allowed to be on a boat. And those that do have that licence know that if they did use the boat to leave the island their family will be me punished by imprisonment or death is enough to tell me that even if at the very base of his ideals Castro has some good ideas, the person he was and the lengths he went to hold onto power makes Cuba and the world a better place without him

BRANDED 5:18 Sun Nov 27
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Pee Wee. It ultimately depends on what you want out of life. I've know three grown men commit suicide and I know a bunch of others who are on drugs for depression. A consumerist developed society doesn't always bring you happiness. Just look at the threads on here!!!!

Pee Wee 5:14 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Ive been a couple of times and love the place and the people. Went out and saw the real Cuba and not just the tourist bits and as much as I understand what Castro tried to do and love that he stood up to the imperialists, just speaking to the people that are there and seeing the poverty will make you realise that he won't be missed by the vast majority.

Saying they have a great education system and first world healthcare is really ignoring the issues. There are plenty of prisons that have good education and free healthcare, but they are still prisons

BRANDED 4:58 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Have you been?

mashed in maryland 3:15 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
LOL how Branded thinks spending a couple of weeks in some all inclusive full of other westerners and paying a tenner to get into a nighclub once gives him some deep meaningful insight that trumps the fact Castro oversaw mass poverty and suffering and violent suppression of his people and millions of them will now be happy he's dead.

BRANDED 1:42 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
http://www.dailyimpact.net/2015/02/09/the-worlds-most-sustainable-country-what-cuba/


After 50 years of pretending that Cuba is not there, the United States government this year admitted that, well, it is still there (even Fidel Castro is still there) and we may as well deal with it. This is seen in some quarters as progress. But it is widely assumed that American business will swoop in there and upgrade them from their 1967 DeSoto cars, re-mechanize their agriculture, build fast-food restaurants, and stamp out Communism. It’s what we do.

What we should do is recognize that Cuba confronted in 1991 precisely the kind of Apocalypse that looms before us today — the sudden loss of external inputs to the economy — things such as oil, heavy equipment, cars, and did we mention oil? — and handled it. We have more to learn from them than there is likely time to learn before we are in the soup, but we should do the best we can, because there is no better example in the world for meeting and besting such a crisis.

The World Wildlife Fund in its 2006 Sustainability Index Report cited Cuba as the only sustainable country in the world.

To comprehend the magnitude of that achievement, and its significance for our world today, we need to go back to 1990. Cuba then was the very model of industrial agriculture, turning most of its land over to vast monocultures of sugar cane, applying oceans of imported oil to till it, spray it (Cuba at the time used more pesticides than the United States), harvest it and ship it to the Soviet Union in return for oil and food. Most of what was grown in Cuba was exported; most of what was eaten in Cuba was imported. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Cuba, under embargo by the United States, had no market for its agricultural products and no way to pay for imported oil or food.

An industrial country wakes up one morning to no more oil. Just like that.

Motivated now by survival, not by profit, Cubans did what smart people have been telling us all to do for decades now. They stopped wresting cash from their punished land and started to heal it in order to have enough food to live. It was tough, starting from scratch, with the crisis already upon them. In the decade that followed the average Cuban adult lost 20 pounds.

They brought in experts in Permaculture from Australia and launched a national drive toward diversified, organic, polycultural, restorative agriculture. They did not do this because they wanted to save “the environment,” they did it because they wanted to save themselves. And that is why they succeeded. By the end of that first decade the average Cuban was getting 2600 calories and more than 68 grams of protein, an amount considered “sufficient” by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization. By 2006 average caloric intake was up to 3356 calories.

A lot of this food was produced not in the countryside (requiring transport to the cities) but in urban gardens, where food was grown and consumed in the same neighborhood. By 2002, 35,000 acres of urban gardens produced 3.4 million tons of food. In Havana, 90% of the city’s fresh produce came from local urban farms and gardens, all organic. In 2003, more than 200,000 Cubans were employed in urban agriculture. In 2003, Cuba had reduced its use of Diesel fuel by more than 50%, synthetic fertilizers by 90%, and chemical insecticides by 83%.

Cuba’s achievements, in the face of exactly the kind of test we will soon face, are nothing short of awe-inspiring. Our obvious course, now that we are resuming a normal relationship, would be to commend them on what they have done and to invite teachers and consultants to come here to America and show our farmers how to stop destroying the earth and start feeding our people sustainably.

So that’s what we’re going to do, right?

Right?

BRANDED 1:36 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
any

BRANDED 1:35 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Mashed. Have you been to Cuba? Have you met only of the people there and spent time with them?

mashed in maryland 12:46 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Communism is shit cos it demands the removal (read: murder) of huge amounts of people and suppression and control of the poor bastards left. The only reason there's no advertising is cos everything except what the elites approve of is banned, and is usually replaced with posters reminding the masses that disagreeing with the way things are leads to removal as well.

Source: literally any history book about the 20th century.

Not one single capitalist country comes near to that. That's what makes it better, cholo.

cholo 8:08 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Arguing that capitalism is 'better' than communism because less people have died is a like arguing Hitler was a better person than Stalin because he caused less deaths.

Capitalism is I believe generally a better system but not for that reason, judging by that criteria, capitalism would still be absolutely dreadful.

stomper 4:55 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
100% pure grade conspiracy theory bollocks. Thank you

sidneyshitcunt 4:05 Sun Nov 27
Re: Fidel Castro buys farm
Don't think we'll be taking opinions on Communism from people on here who haven't noticed that we have had Cultural Marxism in Britain for a couple of decades now..

That's Communism under another name...

As our Security Services muddied the name of Communism forever, the International Socialists of the Kremlin/Rothschild stooge empire simply used another name.

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